Bitch | Lab -January 13th, 2006 at 7:26 pmnone
Comment author #1199 on Everyone Get Your Lesbian Rule Books Out by LGBTQ Daily Dose of Queer
:)
I’m not a writer, but damn! the character irritates me. And I’m really bummed that when they finally bring in someone a little more butch, Daniela Sea’s character, she’s paired with Jenny!
I wanted to enjoy the new character all by herself, on her own, and then maybe see an affair develop. But nooooooooo, she has to be an extension of a character in progress. Feh.
I’m glad someone else besides me thought the season opener just a mess. I actually dozed off at one point.
So, what’s so horrible about Jenny? (Really, I want to know. lol)
She and Shane are my two favorite L Word characters. I was rolling my eyes when I typed this post because there is no lesbian rule book. And Jennifer Vanasco does not know what every lesbian writer thinks about Jenny.
What’s the difference between “I hate Jenny. Every lesbian writer does.” and a statement like “every lesbian is against the death penalty?” We’re all individuals who can form our own opinions. I don’t know why that’s so scary to some people.
Anyway, back to Jenny. What’s wrong with Jenny?!?!?
(and why did they skip over when/how/where she met Moira? I’m so pissy about that!)
mzmartipants -January 14th, 2006 at 3:56 amnone
Comment author #1204 on Everyone Get Your Lesbian Rule Books Out by LGBTQ Daily Dose of Queer
Is it just me, or does the L Word seem like a heterosexual male’s ideal of what lesbians are? It sure doesn’t mirror the lesbian culture here in Indianapolis.
Jen -January 14th, 2006 at 12:43 pmnone
Comment author #1205 on Everyone Get Your Lesbian Rule Books Out by LGBTQ Daily Dose of Queer
Marti, I saw part of only one episode of it, the first one, and then there was no more Showtime for Jen. In this regard,I can’t talk about characters or the dynamics among them over time. I can only talk about my response to that one episode. My reaction to the L Word was the same as to 90210, Friends, and other shows I couldn’t sit through: a bunch of very pretty, thin people with lots of resources and a set of friends and activities that reminded me of nothing of my own life.
I’ve read enough posts about Jenny hatred, and so far, no one has articulated why she is so awful. Does the character play out a stereotype?
UMLawGirl07 -January 14th, 2006 at 6:59 pmnone
Comment author #1207 on Everyone Get Your Lesbian Rule Books Out by LGBTQ Daily Dose of Queer
Mary and I love the L Word. And, in part, because it does NOT reflect any lesbians that we know of (iIn fact, we watched a special on the making of the L Word (came with the 1st season DVD set we own) and it shows a bunch of very butch lesbians behind it, completely out of character with the characters on the show). So, we are free to just sit back and get into the show. I, personally, love Jenny. Mary, otoh, can’t stand her. Shane is my other heartthrob. I think Shane totally rocks.
boiwondr76 -January 14th, 2006 at 9:18 pmnone
Comment author #1211 on Everyone Get Your Lesbian Rule Books Out by LGBTQ Daily Dose of Queer
I’ve always been annoyed by Jenny. Not due to her representation of lesbians, but simply because her character seems driveling, whiny, awefully aweful at “writing”, awefully aweful at decision making, and an overall flipant fool. Now, these faults are human and alright to have in any character. But with the script the actress is given, the general soap opera feel of the show, and her lack of acting skills: the character flaws sound more like finger nails down a chalk board.
We all hate Hamlet for his lack of self, but we love him because his character was well written and we can identify. Jenny’s character – she’s a one-dimensional vomit fest. If the writers for the show could give her more depth and the actress act better, maybe she would be less exhausting to watch.
So. There. I guess there’s my specific reasons. But I in know way claim to speak for the entire GBLT community. ;)
Bitch | Lab -January 14th, 2006 at 10:44 pmnone
Comment author #1214 on Everyone Get Your Lesbian Rule Books Out by LGBTQ Daily Dose of Queer
OK.
I actually thought the writer of the article was making a joke or commentary on it more than trying to claim a universal truth about lesbian writers.
Why does Jenny grate on my nerves? Well, I’d love to have some more reasons why I can love her, as I told Maria yesterday. I’m easy like that.
What boiwondr76 says captures it for me. It’s just the personality most of the time. I’ll admit that, in the beginning, I was inclined to dislike the character simply because she provided a way for gratuitious hetsex to enter the show — and it kind of irritated me at the time.
I don’t like the character because I perceive her as manipulative and deceiptful. So why didn’t I get pissed at the Bette character? Probably because I saw her as a strong person who’d otherwise slipped up and not generally inclined to be deceitful.
I wrote on my blog, after reposting the article, that I am starting to get a little frustrated with talk about how the show examplifies the fact that all lesbians are drama, drama, drama. As if Sex in the City wasn’t drama drama drama!
Has there been any audience research on lesbian fans of the show?
And I second what Jen said: I hardly identify with a single character yet — I was hoping to really like Daniela Sea’s character — but damn it, why did she have to be paired! I wanted her to be single — not so I could lust (which really means be narcissitic :) — but so I could just see her character developed as a single person — her own being and not an attachment as an already existing star of the show.
Boing Boing posted it yesterday and the comments and the Flickr page are full of the typical hetbuoy drooling, punctuated only occasionally by something sensible.
Bitch | Lab -January 14th, 2006 at 11:31 pmnone
Comment author #1216 on Everyone Get Your Lesbian Rule Books Out by LGBTQ Daily Dose of Queer
:)
I’m not a writer, but damn! the character irritates me. And I’m really bummed that when they finally bring in someone a little more butch, Daniela Sea’s character, she’s paired with Jenny!
I wanted to enjoy the new character all by herself, on her own, and then maybe see an affair develop. But nooooooooo, she has to be an extension of a character in progress. Feh.
I’m glad someone else besides me thought the season opener just a mess. I actually dozed off at one point.
So, what’s so horrible about Jenny? (Really, I want to know. lol)
She and Shane are my two favorite L Word characters. I was rolling my eyes when I typed this post because there is no lesbian rule book. And Jennifer Vanasco does not know what every lesbian writer thinks about Jenny.
What’s the difference between “I hate Jenny. Every lesbian writer does.” and a statement like “every lesbian is against the death penalty?” We’re all individuals who can form our own opinions. I don’t know why that’s so scary to some people.
Anyway, back to Jenny. What’s wrong with Jenny?!?!?
(and why did they skip over when/how/where she met Moira? I’m so pissy about that!)
Is it just me, or does the L Word seem like a heterosexual male’s ideal of what lesbians are? It sure doesn’t mirror the lesbian culture here in Indianapolis.
Marti, I saw part of only one episode of it, the first one, and then there was no more Showtime for Jen. In this regard,I can’t talk about characters or the dynamics among them over time. I can only talk about my response to that one episode. My reaction to the L Word was the same as to 90210, Friends, and other shows I couldn’t sit through: a bunch of very pretty, thin people with lots of resources and a set of friends and activities that reminded me of nothing of my own life.
I’ve read enough posts about Jenny hatred, and so far, no one has articulated why she is so awful. Does the character play out a stereotype?
Mary and I love the L Word. And, in part, because it does NOT reflect any lesbians that we know of (iIn fact, we watched a special on the making of the L Word (came with the 1st season DVD set we own) and it shows a bunch of very butch lesbians behind it, completely out of character with the characters on the show). So, we are free to just sit back and get into the show. I, personally, love Jenny. Mary, otoh, can’t stand her. Shane is my other heartthrob. I think Shane totally rocks.
I’ve always been annoyed by Jenny. Not due to her representation of lesbians, but simply because her character seems driveling, whiny, awefully aweful at “writing”, awefully aweful at decision making, and an overall flipant fool. Now, these faults are human and alright to have in any character. But with the script the actress is given, the general soap opera feel of the show, and her lack of acting skills: the character flaws sound more like finger nails down a chalk board.
We all hate Hamlet for his lack of self, but we love him because his character was well written and we can identify. Jenny’s character – she’s a one-dimensional vomit fest. If the writers for the show could give her more depth and the actress act better, maybe she would be less exhausting to watch.
So. There. I guess there’s my specific reasons. But I in know way claim to speak for the entire GBLT community. ;)
OK.
I actually thought the writer of the article was making a joke or commentary on it more than trying to claim a universal truth about lesbian writers.
Why does Jenny grate on my nerves? Well, I’d love to have some more reasons why I can love her, as I told Maria yesterday. I’m easy like that.
What boiwondr76 says captures it for me. It’s just the personality most of the time. I’ll admit that, in the beginning, I was inclined to dislike the character simply because she provided a way for gratuitious hetsex to enter the show — and it kind of irritated me at the time.
I don’t like the character because I perceive her as manipulative and deceiptful. So why didn’t I get pissed at the Bette character? Probably because I saw her as a strong person who’d otherwise slipped up and not generally inclined to be deceitful.
I wrote on my blog, after reposting the article, that I am starting to get a little frustrated with talk about how the show examplifies the fact that all lesbians are drama, drama, drama. As if Sex in the City wasn’t drama drama drama!
Has there been any audience research on lesbian fans of the show?
And I second what Jen said: I hardly identify with a single character yet — I was hoping to really like Daniela Sea’s character — but damn it, why did she have to be paired! I wanted her to be single — not so I could lust (which really means be narcissitic :) — but so I could just see her character developed as a single person — her own being and not an attachment as an already existing star of the show.
BTW, did anyone see this?
Boing Boing posted it yesterday and the comments and the Flickr page are full of the typical hetbuoy drooling, punctuated only occasionally by something sensible.
Sorry. I don’t know why the link doesn’t work.
It was http://blog.pulpculture.org/2006/01/14/making-out-in-tianamen-square/
You’ll have to cut and paste it.